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  • Using Navisworks for Presentation

    The following YouTube presentation explains how to use Navisworks for real-time clients presentation. The workflow requires you to export an 3d DWF from Revit and then import this into Navisworks.



  • Controlling and changing Grid Line display

    Victor Martinez , BIM Manager from HOK NYC said “While working on a recent project, the need to show column grid lines differently between composite plans and finish plans was requested. In order to accomplish this, the following method was used.”

    In this first image, the composite plan is showing the grid lines with the project default settings:

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    Select a grid line and view it’s properties.

    From the Type properties window, there are a few options to adjust how column grid lines are being generated. You are able to change the center and end segments here as well as the symbols being used. For this example, change the center segment to none:

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    Your plan will now look like this:

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    After changing the center segment, select a grid line and use the blue grips to drag each end segment to the center which will turn the grid lines back into a continuous centerline in the composite plan view.

    Do this for each grid line in the view:

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    After dragging each grid line in the one view, the grids will now display differently in this view as compared to the rest of the other views:

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    You can then select the grid lines in the view you changed them in and propagate extents to the remaining corresponding views:

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    Once you Propagate Extents, you will now have the ability to control gridlines differently in multiple views:

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  • Rotating Callouts

    This tip comes from Victor Martinez of the HOK New York Office.

    A callout has been placed in a view that appears to run parallel with the angle of a wing of a building, but you aren’t sure. A decision has been made to rotate the callout back to a default 0 degrees. Since there is no way of getting the angle or the rotation of the callout from its instance properties, how can it be rotated accurately back to a default 0 degrees?

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    By placing a scope box (blue dashed line in below image) in the view you can name the scope box and then assign the callout to the scope box so the callout assumes the angle/placement of the scope box (assuming the default value of a scope box is 0 degrees of course):

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    Callout Instance Properties:

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    The result is the callout assumes the scopebox angle:

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    The scopebox can then be deleted without affecting the callout. Now the callout can be rotated accurately if desired.



  • Linking Revit MEP models into Revit Architecture

    Dave Ivey asks:-

    “We’re working with MEP models for the first time, and seem to be having problems viewing their content.  The image below shows locations for pipes which are system families (in MEP), and which do not show up any view (2D or 3D) when the model is linked in to RAC 2010.  All the obvious stuff has been checked (Worksets, View Range, Object Styles, Visibility Graphics, etc…).  We even tried linking to a specific view in the MEP model, and all we see anywhere is Annotation.  Hopefully I’m just missing something obvious?”

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    Lee Miller says:-

    “Create a new 3D view, then go to instance properties for the view and set the discipline to Coordination”.

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    “Next go to Visibility/Graphics for the view; then under Revit Links, set the Display setting to “By Linked View”.

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  • Creating a surface In Revit 2010 from a linked AutoCAD DWG containing vertical lines

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    I thought I’d share this trick with you. This approach is particularly useful if you are trying to create a complex surface. The idea is to create a series of vertical lines, in the z axis in AutoCAD, spaced evenly with varying lengths. Link the resulting DWG into Revit and then using the new massing tools in Revit 2010, build a surface using points and splines attached to vertical z axis lines on the linked DWG.



  • Revit Content - Doors
    HOK RAC2010 doors are being manufactured with nested frames, and nested door panels. In this short video the steps needed to make a door type "F" are described.



  • RAC 2010 - Propagating Grids
    Here is an efficient method to adjust grids in a view as suggested by Mark R in our San Franciso office:

    • You DON’T have to adjust the layout of your grids for every view.
    • You CAN propagate the same layout from another sheet.
    • It’s easy, you just use “Propagate Extents”.

    But first, a caution about GRIDS:
    • CAUTION: The GRID is put into the model as a 3D Datum.
    • A change to a 3D Datum in one view will affect other views that it extends to.
    • Grids remain 3D in a view until it has been PROPAGATED or until you manually select 2D for the grid.
    • If you want to manipulate a grid in a VIEW, you should ensure that 2D is selected first
    • Do this by clicking the ‘3D’ and it will change to ‘2D’:  













    Now here’s how to propagate a grid to other views:


    1. The Propagate Extents tool is disabled if the view is cropped. So un-crop the view you are propagating FROM and the view(s) you are propagating TO.









    2. Select the grids that you want to propagate (from):

    3. Select the “Propagate Extents” button:











    4. The Propagate Datum Extents window will open. It shows views you can propagate the grid layout to (if a view is cropped, it will now show up). Select the view(s) and click the OK button.





















    5. Voila! The checked views will have the same grid layout.

    6. PIN YOUR GRID SO IT CANNOT ACCIDENTLY BE CHANGED!

    2009-09-21 Ming H from Washington DC adds:

    "I found the easiest way to change Grid or levels from '3D' to '2D', especially when you have a lot of grids or levels is: use crop region, any grids and levels out of the crop region will automatically become '2D'. After adjusting and apply propagating, you can always turn off the crop region. I found this way is much faster for high-rise building. ( I have 75 stories)"


  • Understanding Hosted points in Revit Architecture 2010

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    Points are a great feature in Revit 2010. The following video is another extract from my HOK Revit 2010 massing class which explains the principles of points and how hosted points can be used to control geometric forms.



  • Revit 2010 - MEP Coordination
    Question from Bart V:
    Does anyone have experience with Revit and MEP coordination....The issue is the same for more disciplines, but the lighting layout is a good example: we want to have ownership of the location, while the electrical engineer will be responsible for types, connections, etc.

    Option 1: All fixtures will be in the architectural model, and the electrical engineer would connect to the fixtures through a linked file. Problem is that this is not possible… yet. Apparently the next version of Revit might. Secondly, if the link might be (temporarily) removed, what would this do to the connections in the electrical file?

    Option 2a: All fixtures live in the electrical file, and we would dimension linked elements. This doesn’t work that well, assuming at some point the link might have to be removed, and all dimensions will be lost. Additionally, the fixture families might be too detailed for our use.

    Option 2b: All fixtures live in the electrical file, and we would copy/ monitor all elements. I believe (after a quick test) that it is not possible to copy/ monitor anything but grids, levels, columns, walls, floors and openings.

    Option 3: We would have a separate set of “dimension grids” that will allow us to show the desired dimension, but we have to move these elements manually as the fixtures are moved.

    Solutions from Don R:

    Revit Lighting Fixtures - It is suggested that your coordinate the layout of all light fixtures through your consultant and that the fixtures live exclusively in the MEP model. Most architects would cringe at the thought of this, but if coordinated with enough diligence is the better option.

    This method actually solves a couple problems...
    - There wouldn’t be two separate lighting layouts between the engineers and the architect (very common and always troublesome)
    - The light fixture layout that displays on all sheets will be accurately coordinated with the IECC calculations that the engineer is required to provide

    Keep in mind that in order for the engineers to accurately schedule and circuit the fixtures, they will have to exist in their design model and be controlled by them (manufacturer, wattages, bulbs, model numbers, etc.). It is common that light fixtures will require locale modifications in order to accommodate egress foot candle minimums and to stay under the IECC wattage requirements so it is best to give your engineer the right to make these types of adjustments so long as they keep you informed as to where and why they have to shift any light fixtures.

    Dimensioning - I suggest you save dimensioning fixtures to the end or that you have your engineer provide basic dimensions under your guidance. In the old 2D mindset an engineer would never consider this, but given the new technologies where the building model and its dimensions are far more realistic and accurate in a Revit environment, you may find that your engineer may be willing to do this.

    Copy Monitor Limitations - You CANNOT copy monitor light fixtures, nor can they copy monitor your plumbing fixtures.

    Detail of Fixtures - In terms of the light fixtures being too detailed when provided from an engineer, I think you will find that engineers tend to avoid over detailing their graphics and that you will not have that issue. If you are concerned as to their graphical representation detail, discuss it with them and I’m sure you can work out a compromise.

    Further HOK/ Industry / Revit MEP users comments and suggestions welcome!


  • Creating parametric forms using Revit Architecture 2010
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    Apart from the Ribbon interface, the major focus for the 2010 release of Revit Architecture are the new conceptual massing tools. The following video explains how to create a parametric freeform surface utilising the new conceptual massing tools and the new conceptual mass design environment. This is based on a short extract from a class which I ran for HOK staff. Hopefully, you will find it useful.



  • Revit Architecture - Conditional Formatting
    Lee Miller says....Ever wonder how to color fields in Revit Schedules?











    In the Element Properties of the Schedule, click on Formatting.

    In the Formatting Tab, ALT + N… "The super sneaky shortcut"

    You will get a dialog like this:







  • Rendering soft shadows in Revit 2009/2010

    I came across this tip from one of the Autodesk Revit development QA guys, Zach Kron and I thought it was worth sharing, I've expanded a little on Zach's original post, however Zach owns the credit. :-)

    This will work in both Revit 2009 and 2010. Below you will see a render of a form which utilises soft shadow, giving the image a slightly different look compared with the default out of the box  render settings. Whether you like this look is a matter of opinion, but it is certainly provides something a bit different.

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    You achieve this result by setting the Revit Mental Ray render engine to an early morning setting of say 2am and then adjusting the exposure control from 14 to between 2 to 2.5. You can always tweak it further using the Adjust exposure once you completed the render ( more on that later).

    Setup your scene in the normal manner. Then open up the render dialogue window; make sure your Lighting scheme is set to "Exterior:Sun only". Next, edit your Sun settings to something like 2am in the morning.

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    Under image, click Adjust Exposure, this will open up the Exposure Control dialogue.  Set the Exposure Value your from 14 to around 2 to 2.5. The image above had an exposure setting of 2.2.

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    Also, make sure the Background Style equals Sky: No Clouds.

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    What this actually does, is turns off the sun (as its night time ), but keeps the sky image map and the low level ambient lighting. As noted by Zach, to achieve the best results, it's worth setting your render quality to "best" to get the best shadow depth you can. Setting your render to "best" will obviously result in long render times, so it's probably worth doing a few low resolution renders in the first instance to be assured that the settings will work for you.

    Once you've rendered your image, you can also play with the exposure settings in realtime to again adjust the look and feel of the image. Using the settings above, this is what the image looks like with a White Point setting of 4000 and a saturation set to 1:-

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    Adjusting the White point to 4000 and saturation to 0.2 gave this look:-

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    The same image  has then had all the exposure control settings adjusted, giving these results:-

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    Exposure Value:2.2

    Highlights:0.07

    Mid Tones:0.3

    Shadows:0.8

    White Point:4440

    Saturation:1.08

     

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    Exposure Value:2.2

    Highlights:0.25

    Mid Tones:0.3

    Shadows:0.8

    White Point:7080

    Saturation:1.08

     

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    Exposure Value:2.2

    Highlights:0.07

    Mid Tones:0.3

    Shadows:2.581

    White Point:9548.4

    Saturation:1.08



  • Merging two workset projects

    This a useful tip from Lee Miller, HOK Firmwide Revit CAD manager. The question is, "How do I merge two workset projects together?"

    Here's what to to; the key to this process, is preparation.

    Prepare the models

    First make backups of all your work. 
    Choose the smaller, least complex of the two models, and purge unused. 

    Get the model as lean as possible. 
    Determine what drafting elements will need to be preserved

     

    The Binding process

    In the model which you will bind your project into, create a new temporary workset.  This will be the workset that the bound elements will be dump into.

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    Create some new worksets, i.e. core etc.  These are worksets you will use to transition objects into.
    Select the linked project and choose bind from the options bar.

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    Decide whether you need to include Attached Details, Levels,Grids....

    A message will the appear warning you about binding a linked file. Just choose the remove link button.

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    It may take some time for Revit to complete this exercise! Depending on the size of your project.
    Once the link has been bound, this bound link will be a group. You can then choose to ungroup and the start to transition objects to previously created New worksets. 
    Finally, recreate views, import sheets, etc as required.



  • Comparing Revit models and drawings

    This question comes up on a fairly regular basis, how can I compare two Revit drawings to see what has changed between revisions? Also, how can I compare two different versions of the Revit model to see what has changed?

    In this post we will look at three different tools that can help facilitate this.I am sure their are other tools available to enable us to do this, but I have tried to highlight the most common ones which many of us have installed on our laptops or workstations.

    Model Compare

    The Model Compare tool is part of the Extensions for Revit utilities which can be downloaded and installed from the Autodesk subscription site. Originally only available for Revit Structure users, Autodesk finally saw sense last year and released it for all of the disciplines. It's very easy to use; you start by opening the two models you want to compare, then choose model compare from the extensions pulldown menu.

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    The application will the start and will look for differences between the two models. Once the comparison has been completed, you will be presented with a dialogue box which lists the two models and highlights general information relating to the two projects.

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    You can then choose to review the difference in elements by selecting "elements" in the menu on the far left hand side of the dialogue box. mc_3

    You can then use the "Comparison Type"  check boxes to change how the elements in the models are compared.

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    You have the ability to review elements as follows:-

    mapped equally to one another "="
    different to one another "<>"
    no longer exist in the project  "<"

    The report tool allows you to generate a report of the compared models. This can be saved as an MHT or html  file or you can export to Word or Excel as well as being able to print the report directly from the dialogue box.

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    Below you will find a typical report exported to Excel.

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    Drawing Compare - DWF

    You  can also compare drawing output from Revit using Autodesk Design Review 2009. However, you  need to publish your drawings in DWF format from Revit, to start with. Then open one of the DWF's in Autodesk Design Review 2009 and choose compare from the tools pulldown menu.

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    You will be presented with the following dialogue box.

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    You can then choose the target DWF you want to compare, click the browse icon to locate the DWF, then choose "ok". Design Review will in essence compare the two different DWF outputs and highlighting what has changed by adding additional markup to the DWF.

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    This additional markup can be saved in the DWF, but you also have the ability to load this back into Revit if required. This is achieved by choosing import/link in Revit then selecting the DWF you added to the markup to. The markup will then appear as a markup layer in Revit.

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    Drawing Compare - PDF

    OK, DWF is fine, but what if you published all you drawings from Revit using PDF? In Acrobat Professional we can do something similar to the Compare functionality found in Design Review. Start Acrobat Pro and choose a suitable PDF created from Revit, then from the advanced pulldown menu choose "Compare Documents".

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    Again this will open a dialogue box which will allow you to browse to the PDF you want to compare against.

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    There are different types of comparisons that you can use  and you also have the ability to create two different report types based on the comparisons found. 

    A side by side report provides you with this output:-

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    A consolidated Report provides you with this type of report, which just balloons the various changes:-

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    There you have it, three different ways to compare differences between models and drawings. I guess that some of these may be obvious to the Revit user, nevertheless it fails to amaze me that many users and document reviewers are still not using digital tools to compare differences and changes, instead opting for the old school approach of printing the drawing out to paper and using a magic marker to highlight changes!



  • Revit - Modelling balcony slab with sloped edges

    Here's an interesting modelling challenge set by Nilanjana of the London Office. She wanted to quickly produce a balcony, based on the sketch below, for a large high rise residential scheme.

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    You will see from the diagram above that the majority of the balcony is 450mm deep and is flat as indicated by the blue area. The balcony then falls away on three edges to only 150mm thick. You will also notice the balcony is not rectilinear as indicated, with three sides at different angles.There are a number of different ways to tackle this.... create a family, an in-place family? All have their merits, but at the concept stage of a project you don't always have time to produce what in essence is actually a rather complex family to create. So the easiest way to create the balcony is in four separate elements.

    So start by sketching out a few reference planes to define the extent and shape of the balcony.

    Next create a new floor slab type which is 450mm thick. Edit the type properties of the construction of the floor slab and set the structure "variable" radio button is ticked. This will ensure that that slab is flush on the underside after you have edited the slab.

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    Next model four separate slabs based on the reference plane sketches.

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    You can then slab edit the edges of the three slabs which need to slope away using the sub-element edit tools. Select one of the floor slabs you created and the sub-element edit tools will appear in the options bar.

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    Next select the edit points/edges tools, then select the outer edge of the slab you want to edit and alter the elevation from 0mm to -300mm; this will drop the whole edge of the slab and it will slope as required.

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    Now do this for all the other edges which need to fall away.

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    For extra finesse, use the join geometry to clean up all the floor slabs.

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    One could argue that this is not a purist approach to the BIM problem because you end up with four slabs rather than one, but at that concept stage where you want to convey an idea, this approach is ideal.



  • Keynote Tag and Model/Annotation Crop Boundaries
    Kevin Shumbera in Houston writes:

    I'd like to report an easily reproducible issue to watch for (and to pass on to Autodesk).

    If an element with a keynote is outside of the model crop region, but the keynote itself is inside the annotation crop, the keynote will NOT show up in plan but will STILL schedule per that sheet.

    This happens in dependant and non-dependant views in both 2008 and 2009.


  • Revit - matching dependent views across multiply views

    William Lopez Campo asks:-I have a project which I have created a total of 30 dependent views on one level, how can I create duplicate dependent views on all my other views to match the 30 I have already created, without having to manually create them?

    To propagate a series of dependent views from one particular level to the levels above, you need to do the following.

    Set up you dependent views as required on one level only, in your case this is 30 dependent views! Next select the primary view associated with these dependent views.

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    With this view selected, go the view pulldown menu and choose "apply dependent views".

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    This will open a dialogue box which will allow you to propagate the dependent views you initially created to any other plan view you require.

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    The additional dependent views will be created for you at each level, based  on the dependent views you initially created. You will obviously have to rename them and it should be noted that the dependent views will not maintain associativity in relationship with the crop regions across the multiple levels.

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  • Zoom in and out edit colour scheme dialogue

    I discovered this one by mistake yesterday and thought it would be good to share. When working in the edit color scheme dialogue it is now possible to zoom in and out of the scheme definition window in Revit Architecture 2009; it is not possible in Revit Architecture 2008.

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    All you need to do is place your mouse pointer in the scheme definition window part of the edit color scheme dialogue, then hold down the control key on your keyboard and then use the middle mouse scroll wheel. On doing this you will find that you can scroll in and out, to view more or less of the values in the scheme definition.

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  • Revit Timber Lattice

    Darryn B, LON asks: I need to create a timber lattice structure, such as the attached pictures, as a wall and possibly as a slab too. I was wondering if anyone knew of or has done anything like this before?

    William LC responds: Here’s a couple of examples on the approach I would take for a Timber Lattice Material.
    As you can see I’ve played with Transparency and Bump, for a straight and a 45º option. You can use it in a Wall or in a Curtain Wall setting (my recommendation), be careful to modify the Mullions accordingly too.
    In my test the Lattice is roughly 8 cm wood x 12 void, but that can be customized through the Maps and Map Alignment. Notice the material has a 50% Transparency and a Surface Pattern, for Revit shaded or Hidden views.


  • Creating a Tunnel in Revit
    Aungwara N, ATL says: We have a project that requires us to carve out areas that are larger than the pad openings and connect with each other below street level, like tunnels. Has anyone came up with a way to create a pad and able to control its height? The whole site will end up being about 0.5 mile long and the void will be filled with utilities and rail system.


    Adam S, ATL says: "If you have enough spot elevation data, one option is to establish fixed elevation points at the corners / perimeter of the pad, and then create a new floor type of earth / structure to match the pad dimensions. Click on new floor and use the ‘modify points and edges’ tool and select each corner point and match its elevation to the spot elevation of the toposurface. Given the scale of the site, this will probably have to be done with a number of slabs in order to make the model reasonably accurate. I don’t think it is possible to join geometry with the toposurface, so the joint between slab and topo may be apparent in shaded views (or get creative with visibility/graphic override). It should fade away when rendered, and can be hidden in section views by using the linework tool.

    Examples show an option with no variable thickness components in the slab, and an option with variable thickness for the earth component (if you want a flat underside of slab)."

    David Light, Excitech says: ."This really breaks the Revit rules as my example is a very large floor slab which has been edited, but this does allow you to cut a void to show a tunnel.
    At the moment this cannot be achieved using the toposurface tool. The only other options to consider are an inplace family or maybe a combination of an inplace family and a toposurface."
    In summary, we are fighting to use Revit for planning and landscape design although I guess a half mile long tunnel constitutes a major Civil engineering project (we could use Autocad Civil 3D without much connection to Revit). In early design we would like these kind of tools in Revit Architecture. We need better Revit tools for site modelling to include a tunnel and roads features. Autodesk? As workarounds these suggestions are great, thanks!



  • Steel Doesn't Conform to Object Styles
    If you find that structural framing elements fail to appear according to their object style settings you need to check the view range of the view. In order for these elements to use their category or sub-category assignments they must be part of (within) the Primary Range of a view's View Range settings.


    Adjust the Bottom of the Primary Range so that it intersects or is below the structural framing and you'll find the object style assignments "return".


    Keep in mind you may get slightly different behavior between RST and RAC and whether or not you are using an Architectural or Structural discipline assignment.



  • Revit Diamond Curtain wall
    Joe from HK says "We would like to make grids parallel to segments shown in image below in red"















    Lee Suggests: You can change the configuration of the Grid layout. To do this, select the curtain system and select the configure grid layout icon that appears.














    Click in the Degree value to set the angle of the grid



  • Exporting & Plotting to File Errors
    This issue just popped onto the radar yesterday. Revit was generating the following error message while exporting to dwg.


    The issue is the use of illegal file name characters in the name of a view and/or project name. Revit has to create a file during export or plotting to a file and if the sheet name/view name or project name contains illegal characters Revit will complain and fail to do what you ask.

    Just keep it LEGAL!



  • 3d DWG models in Revit
    You want to know why when you link a 3d DWG model into Revit and try to cut a section through the linked model you don’t get a true representation of the section cut?
    Unfortunately you can’t simply link in a 3d DWG to your project and cut sections through the linked 3d DWG data.

    To get a true section through a 3d DWG in Revit, you must approach it in one of three ways.

    • Within your project create an inplace family, making sure that you select an appropriate family category which allows the geometry to be cuttable. Then import the 3d DWG into the inplace family. This is no preferable, as you are adding weight to your project.

    • Create a new family component such as a generic model family, which allows your geometry to be cuttable. Import the 3d DWG into the family then load this into your project and place the family. This approach allows you to manage the data a little easier as you can easily delete the family component from your project when it’s no longer required.

    • If you have a very large 3d DWG survey that you want to use within your project you may be better using the above approach of creating a family component and then placing the component into a new project. Then link this “survey” project into you master project file. This keeps the 3d DWG survey data separate from the building model and makes the update process and management of the data a lot easier.



  • Ceramic tiles on walls
    How do I show wall tiling in Room elevations?

    When creating room elevation of toilets or bathrooms there may be times when you want to show tiling on the walls. You could approach this in a number of ways, however a good start point is to use the split face tool which can be found in the toolbar across the top of the Revit UI.



    The split face tool can be used on any non-family instance. You can use the split face tool to split selected elements and then use the Paint tool to apply different materials to selected faces. It should be noted that you are not actually changing the structure of the element. So to split the face of a wall to apply a ceramic tile material to a selected area, do the following.

    Select the split face tool. Place your cursor on the wall you’d like to split and select that wall face.
    You will now be in sketch mode, which allows you to place a closed loop inside the face or an open loop with ends that touch the boundary face. If you then select finish sketch from the design bar you will see that you wall face has been split.


    Next you can use the paint tool to apply a different finish to the split face.


    You can also use the align tool or dimensions on the fill patterns to alter and align the spacing of the fill pattern on the split face.